Comments on: Nicole Kidman’s Faith Shifts ‘Golden Compass’’s Needle http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/ Showbiz buzz Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:39:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: gramps http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-822 gramps Sun, 30 Dec 2007 13:38:35 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-822 Nicole Kidman leads a puzzling and disturbing life. God help her. Nicole Kidman leads a puzzling and disturbing life.

God help her.

]]> By: Mariely Toro http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-806 Mariely Toro Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:24:09 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-806 I think that sadly Nicole Kidman , Daniel Craig and the young girl starring in the movie are either utterly ignorant , or utterly stupid or simply maliscious , if they insist that this film is not anticatholic. You really need to have one of these 3 problems to not realise the agenda behind the 3 books & movie and the dishonesty behind the way it's being presented to the children and entire world. Also they must be totally wanting in morals if they support what books 2 and 3 say. What’s worse though is that they are being proud and irresposible. I agree with everything carynswark said before. And I would never encourage any children or adults to watch so grose and dark a movie. I have now decided that I will never again watch a movie where Kidman or Craig star unless they admit their error to the world and try to repair with deeds the harm that will come out of the movie. Also I’ll do my best to transmit these views to all the people I know and boy! I do know LOTS of people. I think that sadly Nicole Kidman , Daniel Craig and the young girl starring in the movie are either utterly ignorant , or utterly stupid or simply maliscious , if they insist that this film is not anticatholic. You really need to have one of these 3 problems to not realise the agenda behind the 3 books & movie and the dishonesty behind the way it’s being presented to the children and entire world. Also they must be totally wanting in morals if they support what books 2 and 3 say. What’s worse though is that they are being proud and irresposible.
I agree with everything carynswark said before. And I would never encourage any children or adults to watch so grose and dark a movie. I have now decided that I will never again watch a movie where Kidman or Craig star unless they admit their error to the world and try to repair with deeds the harm that will come out of the movie. Also I’ll do my best to transmit these views to all the people I know and boy! I do know LOTS of people.

]]> By: I think that sadly Nicole Kidman , Daniel Craig and the young girl starring in the movie are utterly ignorant of Catholicism and Morals, and what's worth they are very wrong and irresposible. I agree with everything carynswark has said. And I would never http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-805 I think that sadly Nicole Kidman , Daniel Craig and the young girl starring in the movie are utterly ignorant of Catholicism and Morals, and what's worth they are very wrong and irresposible. I agree with everything carynswark has said. And I would never Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:17:23 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-805 I think that sadly Nicole Kidman , Daniel Craig and the young girl starring in the movie are either utterly ignorant , or utterly stupid or simply maliscious , if they insist that this film is not anticatholic. You really need to have no brain to not realise the agenda behind the 3 books and the movie. Also they must be totally wanting in moras if they support what books 2 and 3 say. What's worth is that they are being very proud and irresposible. I agree with everything carynswark said before. And I would never encourage any children or adults to watch so grose and dark a movie. I have now decided that I will never again watch a movie where Kidman or Craig star unless they admit their error to the world and try to repair with deeds the harm that will come from the movie. Also I'll do my best to transmit these views to all the people I know and boy! I do know LOTS of people. Mariely Toro I think that sadly Nicole Kidman , Daniel Craig and the young girl starring in the movie are either utterly ignorant , or utterly stupid or simply maliscious , if they insist that this film is not anticatholic. You really need to have no brain to not realise the agenda behind the 3 books and the movie. Also they must be totally wanting in moras if they support what books 2 and 3 say. What’s worth is that they are being very proud and irresposible.
I agree with everything carynswark said before. And I would never encourage any children or adults to watch so grose and dark a movie. I have now decided that I will never again watch a movie where Kidman or Craig star unless they admit their error to the world and try to repair with deeds the harm that will come from the movie. Also I’ll do my best to transmit these views to all the people I know and boy! I do know LOTS of people. Mariely Toro

]]> By: carynswark http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-795 carynswark Mon, 24 Dec 2007 22:59:43 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-795 :) The good news is, this movie appears to be a total flop. As for Angela's comment, which isn't really a comment so much as a random aside but which I interpret to mean we should all go watch this documentary and learn about the Catholic church's intolerance: I don't think anyone would argue that the church has a spotless record. It is after all a human institution, meaning it's run by sinful and fallible individuals. But witness my earlier comments about the president -- the argument holds. :) The good news is, this movie appears to be a total flop. As for Angela’s comment, which isn’t really a comment so much as a random aside but which I interpret to mean we should all go watch this documentary and learn about the Catholic church’s intolerance: I don’t think anyone would argue that the church has a spotless record. It is after all a human institution, meaning it’s run by sinful and fallible individuals. But witness my earlier comments about the president — the argument holds.

]]> By: Victoria http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-707 Victoria Sun, 09 Dec 2007 08:32:12 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-707 ^_^ You tell him carynswark!! Your my hero. Its people like Warren that makes me want to poke out my eyes. I am not a catholic myself, but I know some people who are, and they are one of the kindest, loviliest bunch I have met. People who sumerge their heads into propaganda bullcrap and launch themselves into senseless, unfounded attack rage against a group they know nothing about irk me to no end. ^_^ You tell him carynswark!! Your my hero.

Its people like Warren that makes me want to poke out my eyes.

I am not a catholic myself, but I know some people who are, and they are one of the kindest, loviliest bunch I have met.

People who sumerge their heads into propaganda bullcrap and launch themselves into senseless, unfounded attack rage against a group they know nothing about irk me to no end.

]]> By: angela http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-706 angela Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:46:55 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-706 Deliver us from Evil - a documentary on the Catholic Church's 'tolerance' (hahaha) Deliver us from Evil – a documentary on the Catholic Church’s ‘tolerance’ (hahaha)

]]> By: Jill http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-703 Jill Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:10:56 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-703 After reading several articles about "The Golden Compass" I have decided not to allow my son to see it. I was disappointed in Nicole Kidman's choice to take part in this project. It is an obvious attempt to encourage young people that they do not need God or at least the version that they have been taught thus far. I am very shocked that a person with a Catholic background would be a part of a film that so agregiously disrespects the church and its leader Jesus Christ, albeit abstractly, yet dangerous none the less. After reading several articles about “The Golden Compass” I have decided not to allow my son to see it. I was disappointed in Nicole Kidman’s choice to take part in this project. It is an obvious attempt to encourage young people that they do not need God or at least the version that they have been taught thus far.
I am very shocked that a person with a Catholic background would be a part of a film that so agregiously disrespects the church and its leader Jesus Christ, albeit abstractly, yet dangerous none the less.

]]> By: fred pepito http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-697 fred pepito Sat, 08 Dec 2007 00:31:48 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-697 I appreciate carynswark comment. I am happy there are people like him. It makes the world a good place to live. As for me, I choose hope and life over death. I appreciate carynswark comment. I am happy there are people like him. It makes the world a good place to live. As for me, I choose hope and life over death.

]]> By: carynswark http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-668 carynswark Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:59:02 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-668 I must agree with Fed -- Warren's comments certainly read like those of someone who hasn't troubled to learn anything about the Catholic church before attacking it. That, I believe, puts you on the same par as those who attack Harry Potter or The Golden Compass without reading them. Before I go further, let me just say that I *have* read all three books in the Dark Materials trilogy. To address your points: 1. The Magestarium *is* the Catholic Church. Do your homework. 2. I teach at a Catholic school, and I constantly try to imbue my students with the values of tolerance, loyalty, love, and friendship. If you'd like to have a look at our religion curriculum, I'd be happy to send it to you. I think you'll find it centers on those values. 3. I find it interesting that you criticize the entire Catholic church as "intolerant." How many Catholics do you know personally? Something like 50% of the world is Catholic. Do you really think you've met an adequate number of Catholics to judge the entirety of the church's members as "intolerant"? 4. Judging from what I've read from Nicole Kidman, I don't get the sense that she's putting her middle finger up to anyone. 5. The Catholic church is not telling anyone anything about the movie, at least so far. There are Catholic groups that are, but that's not the same thing. 6. I do agree with you on this one point: children do have to decide for themselves what their faith will be. That doesn't mean they shouldn't learn about faith. Regardless of what you teach them, they'll come to their own place in the world. Teaching faith isn't about indoctrination; it's about giving kids a basis to stand on if they choose to remain in the church. 7. George Bush isn't Catholic, and would probably have a hard time making the world "implode." Explode, perhaps... 8. True, many wars are in the name of religion, but if you dig deeper, they almost all have political motivations. Religion is a means to an end for these people, a way to motivate people to fight. If they didn't have religion, they'd choose something else. 9. I'm assuming your use of the word "master" is meant to be derogatory. I don't know of any Catholics who would call the Pope their "master" anymore than an American is obligated to call the president *his* "master." The Pope is the leader of the church just as George Bush is the leader of the USA. Just because you don't like Bush, you're not going to renounce your AMerican citizenship. And while I'm not commenting about the pope either way, just because a person dislikes him is not a reason for renouncing one's faith. I'm sorry, but ignorance annoys me regardless of where it originates. And what particularly annoys me is ignorant people who accuse large groups (eg, Catholics) of ignorance and intolerance based on a small minority. You should hope people don't judge all secularists based on you. I must agree with Fed — Warren’s comments certainly read like those of someone who hasn’t troubled to learn anything about the Catholic church before attacking it. That, I believe, puts you on the same par as those who attack Harry Potter or The Golden Compass without reading them. Before I go further, let me just say that I *have* read all three books in the Dark Materials trilogy.

To address your points:

1. The Magestarium *is* the Catholic Church. Do your homework.

2. I teach at a Catholic school, and I constantly try to imbue my students with the values of tolerance, loyalty, love, and friendship. If you’d like to have a look at our religion curriculum, I’d be happy to send it to you. I think you’ll find it centers on those values.

3. I find it interesting that you criticize the entire Catholic church as “intolerant.” How many Catholics do you know personally? Something like 50% of the world is Catholic. Do you really think you’ve met an adequate number of Catholics to judge the entirety of the church’s members as “intolerant”?

4. Judging from what I’ve read from Nicole Kidman, I don’t get the sense that she’s putting her middle finger up to anyone.

5. The Catholic church is not telling anyone anything about the movie, at least so far. There are Catholic groups that are, but that’s not the same thing.

6. I do agree with you on this one point: children do have to decide for themselves what their faith will be. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t learn about faith. Regardless of what you teach them, they’ll come to their own place in the world. Teaching faith isn’t about indoctrination; it’s about giving kids a basis to stand on if they choose to remain in the church.

7. George Bush isn’t Catholic, and would probably have a hard time making the world “implode.” Explode, perhaps…

8. True, many wars are in the name of religion, but if you dig deeper, they almost all have political motivations. Religion is a means to an end for these people, a way to motivate people to fight. If they didn’t have religion, they’d choose something else.

9. I’m assuming your use of the word “master” is meant to be derogatory. I don’t know of any Catholics who would call the Pope their “master” anymore than an American is obligated to call the president *his* “master.” The Pope is the leader of the church just as George Bush is the leader of the USA. Just because you don’t like Bush, you’re not going to renounce your AMerican citizenship. And while I’m not commenting about the pope either way, just because a person dislikes him is not a reason for renouncing one’s faith.

I’m sorry, but ignorance annoys me regardless of where it originates. And what particularly annoys me is ignorant people who accuse large groups (eg, Catholics) of ignorance and intolerance based on a small minority. You should hope people don’t judge all secularists based on you.

]]> By: Christine,UK http://headlinehollywood.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-632 Christine,UK Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:35:32 +0000 http://headlinehollywood.wordpress.com/2007/10/14/nicole-kidman%e2%80%99s-faith-shifts-%e2%80%98golden-compass%e2%80%99%e2%80%99s-needle/#comment-632 Warren The Magesterium is what or church calls the people in the Catholic church on whom we rely for guidance and teaching - starting from Pope Benedict, including Cardinals, Archbishop, Bishops. Magesterium is not a fictional body made up by Philip Pullman. I'm sad that Nicole Kidman decided to make this movie and sadder that so many people are taken in by non-factual anti-Catholic propoganda. Christine Warren
The Magesterium is what or church calls the people in the Catholic church on whom we rely for guidance and teaching – starting from Pope Benedict, including Cardinals, Archbishop, Bishops.
Magesterium is not a fictional body made up by Philip Pullman.
I’m sad that Nicole Kidman decided to make this movie and sadder that so many people are taken in by non-factual anti-Catholic propoganda.
Christine

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